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Patricia G.  
#1 Posted : Monday, July 7, 2014 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Hi there,

Do you mean the Pool Designer Power Tool?
If you have the Home and Landscape V17 version (as per your post), then your program doesn't include this feature.
Attached, you will find the chart showing the Landscape Design tools included with each V17 program.
Now, if you have another program that includes this tool, you will find it at => Main Menu => Design => Launch Power Tool => Pool Designer.

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KMS  
#2 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2015 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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I run the basic version 17.7 on a PC with Windows 7. Is there a way to create a pool without the pool design tool? I actually took several pictures of my pool and recreated the outline of my unique shape, and imported the picture into power tools so I can trace it (in 2D top view), but I don't know what to do from there. All I'm really trying to do is get the outline of the pool on top of my deck. I don't really need any depth to it. Thank you.

Kurt
Patricia G.  
#3 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2015 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Hi Kurt,

You can create your pool as object using the 3D Custom Workshop Power Tool

Open the 3D Custom Workshop Power Tool => Main Menu => Image Trace Properties => Import the image => Trace the parts in 2D => Extrude

If you are interested, --> My Power Tools e-book: Learning Punch Software (R): Power Tools-Second Edition and --> My all in one e-book: Learning Punch Software (R): Training, Tools & Tutorials - Second Edition contain an entire chapter about the 3D Workshop Power Tool with several step by step tutorials.

If you just need the surface: in the main program, trace the shape with the floor tool (floor tab) => texture

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KMS  
#4 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2015 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Thank you Patricia. The issue I have is I am tracing a 2D outline of a pool and cannot extrude without going to 3D, but I cannot find the outline to extrude in the Y direction. Maybe I need your book.....

Kurt
Patricia G.  
#5 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2015 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Hi Kurt,

You're welcome! :-)

To extrude: after you traced the shape, remember that the shape will be extruded in a plane parallel to the active grid. See attached.


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KMS  
#6 Posted : Saturday, July 18, 2015 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Thank you again. Can't extrude in 2D (xX - Z axis where the tracing was done) and when I go to 3D I don't see anything.
Patricia G.  
#7 Posted : Saturday, July 18, 2015 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Hi there,

You can't extrude in 2D.

This is an example that you can follow with the image attached => In 2D, outline the shape in the floor grid (say is an hexagon) => Go to 3d => confirm that the floor grid is selected (outlined in red) => select the Extrude tool (outlined in green) => select the hexagon => point one of the handles (green arrow) => drag the handle up (following the blue arrow) => the hexagon is extruded.
You can check also the examples starting at page 301 of the User's guide.
Another option: the Furnishing library, there are ready to use pools that you can modify using the 3D Custom Workshop Power Tool


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KMS  
#8 Posted : Saturday, July 18, 2015 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Patricia,

I understand how to extrude in that example, but when you trace an image, it is in 2D and when I go to a 3D veiw, or any other view, I cannot find the trace ouline, even in the shade view rendering. Am I doing something wrong with tracing (bascially tracing the outline of my unique pool shape).

Thank you,

Kurt
Patricia G.  
#9 Posted : Saturday, July 18, 2015 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Kurt,

You're welcome :-)

The trace image is visible ONLY in 2D wireframe mode . Are using the trace image to draw the pool?. Notice that you are not going to extrude the image => you will use the image as a guide to draw the pool in 2D and then, extrude it in 3D

Check the example in the first image attached: make the image visible in 2D wireframe (outlined in green), top view / floor grid (outlined and pointed in red)
Select one of the drawing tools to outline the desired element => in the image attached, I selected the rectangle to draw a counter (outlined an pointed in yellow). Notice the rectangle pointed with the blue arrow.
In the second image attached => go to 3D (outlined in red) => you won't see the trace image, but you will see the rectangle that you traced (pointed with the blue arrow)


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KMS  
#10 Posted : Sunday, July 19, 2015 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Thank you Patricia. I have been following all those steps. I used the 2D Closed Curve tool to carefully trace the outline of my coping, which is a JPG file that was used as the trace image. The wireframe is visible in 2D but not 3D. I also used the rectangular outline tool as you show in your example, but the trace outline is also not visible in 3D with any rendering selection. I'm still stumped?!?
Patricia G.  
#11 Posted : Sunday, July 19, 2015 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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You're welcome :-)

I think that (perhaps) we are looking at a computer problem here.

Try this: Save the Punch file attached in your computer and unzip it => Open your Punch program => File => Open => "Rectangle.PRO" (the file attached) => you will see a rectangle in the workspace => right click on it => select 3D Custom Workshop => the 3D Custom Workshop Power Tool will open => you should see the rectangle in 3D

If you can't see the rectangle, then it is a computer problem, that only the Technical Department http://support.encore.com/ can solve (I am just a volunteer here)

Good luck with your project!


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KMS  
#12 Posted : Sunday, July 19, 2015 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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I figured it out. The tracing has to be done in the "top" view, not the 2D view. Thanks for all your help. Kurt
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#13 Posted : Sunday, July 19, 2015 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Glad that you read carefully and followed what I wrote at Patricia G., "Pool wizard" #9, 18 Jul 2015 5:25 pm

make the image visible in 2D wireframe (outlined in green), top view / floor grid (outlined and pointed in red)
Select one of the drawing tools to outline the desired element => in the image attached, I selected the rectangle to draw a counter (outlined an pointed in yellow). Notice the rectangle pointed with the blue arrow.

By the way, the Top view is a 2D view, as explained

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levina  
#14 Posted : Wednesday, July 22, 2015 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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I have the Interior Design Program..each time I try to add draperies or blinds to the windows they end up on the window trim..I have tried to find info in the user guide but have not been successful..Can you plese help me..thanks
Patricia G.  
#15 Posted : Wednesday, July 22, 2015 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Hi there,

I think that you are trying to insert the object in 3D. The accessories must be added in 2D.

Let's clarify some concepts so you will get a better idea of the issue and the solutions.
In Punch, you have objects, like chairs, tables, etc. And you have components and special objects, like doors, windows and accessories (shutters, curtains, etc)
The objects can be inserted in 2D or 3D. The special objects should be inserted in 2D => create the window => select the accessory => click on the center of the window => if the shutter is applied in the interior part of the wall, just select it an drag it to the exterior part of the wall
See image attached

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levina  
#16 Posted : Wednesday, August 5, 2015 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Hi Patricia

thanks for THe quick response..after i sent the message I went back to my file to try again nad that's when i saw hte accessories toool.

again thanks
Patricia G.  
#17 Posted : Wednesday, August 5, 2015 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Hi there,

You're welcome! :-)
Glad to know that the problem is solved and thank you for your feedback.

Patricia
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