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Patricia G.  
#1 Posted : Friday, September 29, 2006 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Hi Carlos,

There are at least two ways to do this
- In the Floor tab, (or electrical, etc), you will see a small black arrow at the right of the name. By clicking the small arrow you have the option of viewing or hiding other tabs (see the image attached). Just check the names of all the tabs so you'll be sure you are working with all the elements of your project--> when you've all the elements in your screen--> Edit--> Select all--> Edit--> set object elevation-->you can set the elevation also by right clicking the elevation slider (left of the screen)--> write the desired elevation. Of course, if you have elements with a different elevation, you must set their elevations manually

The other work around is the modification of the lot--> Go to Power Tools--> Topo Designer--> create a building pad or topo element with elevation= -17 cm, this will set the project 17 cm above the lot--> save the topo

Hope this helps

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Schorr, Carlos  
#2 Posted : Tuesday, October 3, 2006 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Hi Patricia: That is tool witch I work with but not what I need for this: I would like to have a tool to elevate the whole project proportional to its actual position; not one by one elements types. I am looking for something more short. So, I suppose this tool is not present with the program. My project has a lot of elements, decks, etc, so I will have to elevate each type one by one. Thank you for your attention, Carlos
Patricia G.  
#3 Posted : Tuesday, October 3, 2006 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Carlos Schorr

Read my answer carefully, because this is exactly what I answered
Changing the building pad elevation will change the whole project elevation in one step

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Issan, Tom  
#4 Posted : Friday, October 6, 2006 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Patricia, I am trying to accomplish the same thing Carlos is. I followed your instructions using the Topo designer and created a building pad @ 1.5 meters although all the other elements; walls & everything else remained at the same/original elevation. Can the working elevation be modified after most or all the topography elements are in place? or does this have to be set from the very beginning? My project: Adding fill @ 1.50 meters, interior floor level .55 meters above (filled) grade. thanx for your support..
Patricia G.  
#5 Posted : Friday, October 6, 2006 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Hi Tom,

You need to use the topo elements as indicated. Remember that Punch topo works by difference between the elements, therefore to put the building pad to work you need to set the 0.00" level.

Draw a rectangle larger than the BP--> set the elevation as 0.00--> generate the topo

Hope this helps

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Patricia G.  
#6 Posted : Friday, October 6, 2006 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Hi Lyle,

First thing, in the original message the request was to elevate the house in only one operation.
I don't think that select all the tabs in 3 levels will be easier than modify the topo in one step.

In addition, in real life is not a mythical issue at all. The BD take this issue very seriously, this is the reason why they require the cross sections and the constructive details with the dirt level and the floor levels.
Imagine if the project has a stair coming from the garden at the same level of the interior floor! :-)
In the original post, the user drew the house leveled with the lot and he needs the first floor appearing 17 cm above the lot. Of course, he must modify the elevations accordingly

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Issan, Tom  
#7 Posted : Saturday, October 7, 2006 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for the feedback although I'm still not sure how to elevate 'all' the elements above/atop the BP in one go(most of the house/structures are already in place). The project is in Thailand where flooding isn't uncommon. If the BP or fill is 1.50 m then the wall elevation is 1.50 also? But how does this work if the elevation of the BP is 0.00 ?
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#8 Posted : Saturday, October 7, 2006 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Tom,

as I stated, the building pad method is one of them and the manual elevation is other

To elevate the elements

In the Floor tab, (or electrical, etc), you will see a small black arrow at the right of the name. By clicking the small arrow you have the option of viewing or hiding other tabs (see the image attached). Just check the names of all the tabs so you'll be sure you are working with all the elements of your project--> when you've all the elements in your screen--> Edit--> Select all--> Edit--> set object elevation-->you can set the elevation also by right clicking the elevation slider (left of the screen)--> write the desired elevation. Of course, if you have elements with a different elevation, you must set their elevations manually

Let us know if you need additional help

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Patricia G.  
#9 Posted : Saturday, October 7, 2006 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Well, I can't see the relation between the posts above and the level of lot regarding the level of the sea or the Surveyor tool

What I wrote from the very beginning was the answer to the requests " Is it possible to elevate the whole project by 17 centimeters with AS4000? I need to place a deck under the finished project, so the whole project should have been designed 17 centimeters above the actual position (0)", "I would like to have a tool to elevate the whole project proportional to its actual position; not one by one elements types" and "Can the working elevation be modified after most or all the topography elements are in place"
I don't think they are talking about the level of the house related with the level of the sea. Perhaps I am wrong, but I guess they are talking of the house and the lot only

I'd like to ask to Carlos or Tom if they can clarify if they wish to change the level of the house related to the level of the sea or the elevation of the house for building purposes

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Issan, Tom  
#10 Posted : Monday, October 9, 2006 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Patricia, You are correct in your last post. I wasn't talking about sea level at all, don't know how that came into play. All I want to do is elevate the house & structures to 1.5 meters above EXISTING GRADE, the sea is about a six hour drive from here. I've started to elevate all the topo elements one at a time since I don't know how to raise "everything" all at once. I'm not into trig and to be honest, Lyle's posts are a bit confusing although I appreciate any and all feedback. thanx again...
Patricia G.  
#11 Posted : Monday, October 9, 2006 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Hi Tom Issan,

Yes, this is how I understood the posts (yours and Mr Carlos')

If the elevation change by elements is working for you, then it's better for you to continue with this system

Let us know if you have additional questions

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keithb  
#12 Posted : Monday, October 30, 2006 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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My house design is intended for a sloped lot at 2,390 ft. above sea level (mean elevation). I've tried the techniques described above for raising the Topo, Building Pad, and building floors to the desired elevations and I seem to get random results, even though there are no error messages when I set the elevations. Specifically, the Topo and BP won't rise to the level of the basement, even though I set them to the same elevation as I set the floor of the basement, and the house plan, Topo and BP seem to have their elevations reset at unpredictable times during my transitions from the designer window to the Topo Power Tool and back. When I go to LiveView, I often find my elevation reset to something like 0", or 83'-5" (or some other random elevation). I figure this out because the view is completely black (I'm generating the Topo as a solid from the surface down to 0); I have to reset the walk-through and fly-around elevations to get back up to 2,790 ft. Anybody have an idea how to get the results of this elevation setting process to be repeatable, predictable, and do what the user guide and Punch! University course says it should do?
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#13 Posted : Monday, October 30, 2006 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Hi keithb,

If you read the posts above, you can see that there is a difference between sea level elevation, and the project elevation related with lot

There are several setting to check but there are two main parameters that are very important, in my opinion. In the Punch V7 versions and up, the topo slopes, berms, etc are defined by difference between the levels. So, independent of the height of a topo element, it will be different if you place it on a pad with elevation +24" or -24" for example
The second question is: did you generate the topo each time you modify the topo project?
Each time you design / change elements in the Topo Designer, you must click the "Generate Topography" button to update the information. This button is in the right - up corner (check the image attached)
Don't forget to save the topography!

Let us know if you need additional help

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