Hi bagby,

You are in the Platinum section of the Forum, so my first question is--> what Plat (or other program) version do you have?--> in general for all the programs, the newest versions (version 10 and up) have the Palette--> you paint all the doors, trims, etc using the palette (say with red color), and then, you just need to change the red color in the palette with a blue color (for example) and all the elements painted with the red will become painted with blue

Patricia

Tricky, this forum software. I don't know where my message from yesterday went, but apparently it was not treated as a reply. Wonder where it went?

Anyway, my version DOES have the palette, it just cannot be used.

I can edit the palette (the only way I've found to make it visible to me at all), and drag materials/colors onto it.

Whenever I try to get any sort of 3d view however, the palette disappears. I bring the palette back and the 3d view disappears. Looks like it's one or the other but not both, which makes the palette useless.

"Help" doesn't.

How do I see the palette AND the 3d view at the same time?

I have rendered the image in LiveView, which is what I take "Visualize your project" to mean.

I am attempting "Open the Palette" I am at a loss as to how to do that. I see no obvious way, or even a non-obvious way.

Help -> Search -? "open palette" gives me
"Managing LiveView Palettes"

It offers me a selection of "To Organize Palettes", which I expand. It says,"Click the palette menu and ..."

I seek in vain for something that looks like the Palette menu. The word, "palette" on a menu bar, an icon of an artist's palette.

The only reference I have even seen is on the LiveView drop-down menu in the top bar, under "Edit Palette", and selecting that closes LiveView.

Help -> Search -> Palette Menu provides nothing directly on point except "Using the Decorator Palette", which tells me what the palette does, and how to use it once it's open, but not how to open it.

There's also "Managing LiveView Palettes" which tells me how to save, import and export them, and repeats the "manage" instructions -- but not how to open a palette and use it.

I study each pull-down menu at the top, "File, Edit ,Design, LiveView, Window, Help" and mouseover each, looking for anything else relating to "Palette"

I look at the tabs on top, "Foundation, floor, electrical, plumbing, roofing, hvac, deck, landsape, detail.

I look at the tool icons on the right side, but there's no palette icon. Select, resize, rotate, pan, zoom, magnify, add text, couple of dimensions, the elevation scale.

Tabs on the left, "Properties, PowerTools, Objects,Templates, Plants, Trim, Colors, Materials. Click on each of them looking for "palette" or an icon. Nothing.

The various view icons on the upper right. The icon for this web site. The ruler on the lower left, the calculation icon, the floor icon. Over on the lower right, the compass icon, the plant inventory icon.

No palette. No palette menu.

Am I just very dense, or missing something?

I must be missing things. I was also looking in the 3d object library for any kind of window treatment. Didn't find any, so I searched for "blinds", "curtains", "drapes", all came up empty. Can that be right? There are no window treatments to be had? There's no "earth" or "sand" among the grass objects either, which I do kinda dig (sorry), but that does make planning xeriscapes difficult. Is there something else I can do about windows?

I put the version info, v12 in my case, in that previous, lost message. I notice not all messages seem to survive. Anyway, as I said in another lost message, I did find the palette menu. I also found the curtain (??? Only after being told it's supposed to be a curtain) icon and am exploring that very strange behavior. (Not quite a 2D thing, nor yet a 3D object.)

Thanks.

The "A Quick Tour" section of the help menu does not mention any controls, icons or menus in the LiveView window, or indeed the existence of the LiveView window itself (nor any other sub-window like Room Wizard, or Plants, for that matter), at all It mentions only the LiveView icons (quarter view, half view, &c) on the main window. As a quick tour, it's remarkably incomplete.