Chris just email me clarifying that the "mystery floor" is the floor in the first level and not in the second one

In this case, is important to note that the fact that one or more elements appear (visually) in the first floor, doesn't mean that they are in the first floor
As you can see in the image attached, it seems to be in the first floor, but it is located in the second floor with elevation= 6"

To locate a floor or other object visible in 3D but not in 2D, there are several options

-->Start with the first level, in the first tab (Foundation) and go over the following tabs (Floor, Electrical, etc). Repeat the process in the second and third floors, with all the tabs , until you find the objects

-->If you have a Punch AS 3000 V7 or Punch AS 4000 V8 or a V10 / V12 program, you can use the 3D selection tool (arrow icon in the lower right corner in Live view) You can select items just on the active floor. So, if you click on the object in live view and it doesn't become active in the plan, try with other level (try all the levels independently of the level where the object seems to be)
I suggest to work with liveview / half view so you can control the plan and the live view at the same time

--> In addition, depending of your Punch version, you can try with the Elevation Editor (Power tools--> Elevation Editor). The floor will be visible--> select--> delete

I am sending the new file to Chris

Patricia

Hi Chris,

Your message was published today, but I received your e-mail yesterday, so the answer is my message above :-)
Punchhelpers, "Floating Mystery Floor That Defies All Attempts at Deletion" #2, 4 Sep 2007 6:28 pm

I sent two files to you, one with the floor in other color (so you can visualize it) and a second file without the floor

Patricia

Hi ewhips,

Third edition of the Punch! Interior Design Suite? .... can you tell me if this is the exact name of your program?

Check these two issues
1 - select one of the exterior walls--> Edit--> set object elevation--> verify if the wall is on the right elevation
2 - Say that initially, you set your walls with elevation 100" using autofloor= 12"--> the autofloor elevation will be 100" and the walls' elevation will be 112"--> now, if in this stage you just unselect the autofloor option, the walls will remain with elevation 112", and you will see a space between the 1st and second floor. So, if this is the issue--> the solution is--> select autofloor--> thickness=1"--> Enter--> unselect autofloor

Let us know if this doesn't solve the problem

Patricia

Hi ewhips,

Did you check the floor elevation?

Patricia

Hi Marigot2,

In Punch there are two types of floors
--> Manual floor--> is the floor created with the floor tool--> this floor can be selected, elevated, etc.
--> Autofloor--> is the floor created automatically by the program when you create the exterior walls--> this floor cannot be selected (alone) in 2D or 3D because it is part of the exterior walls. In order to eliminate it, select the exterior walls--> properties bar--> uncheck Autofloor

Some additional helping notes

--> The ceiling elevation is the bottom face of the ceiling. This means that if the floor of the second floor (for example) is @ 108", and your 1st floor has a ceiling of 12", the ceiling elevation will be 96" and the settings of the cutout will be the same: elevation at 96"and thickness= 12"
--> If you used Autofloor in the 1st floor, the ceiling elevation will be the walls' height + the Autofloor thickness (as described above)
--> If you used a floor in the upper floor, you must consider this thickness in the floor cut

Patricia

Hi Marigot2,

You're welcome :-D !!

Thank you for the feedback

Patricia