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Patricia G.  
#1 Posted : Saturday, April 26, 2003 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Hi,

In Acrobat Reader, you can select all or a part of the plan (Graphics Select Tool, making a rectangle around the selected part), then Edit->Copy and Paste in your favorite image software (MS Paint, Photoshop, etc).

Then Save as-->myplan.bmp

Hope this helps!

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Buckland, Anthony  
#2 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2003 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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So I guess it's my version of Acrobat Reader that's holding
me back in this regard. I just did an "about" in its help
menu and got offered a chance to upgrade to 4.0, which I
assume has the Graphics Select Tool. I just have Text
Select. I'll look into the upgrade (my version came free
with something or other). Thanks for the pointer.
Buckland, Anthony  
#3 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2003 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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My problem was having an older version of the Adobe Acrobat reader. I upgraded to version 5.1 yesterday, found the Graphics Select Tool in it, and have run a few experiments since then. Thanks.
Patricia G.  
#4 Posted : Monday, April 28, 2003 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Hi,

Yes, the Adobe Acrobat reader's version 5.1 (free) is the right version to use the Graphic Select Tool.

If you can, please share with us the results of your experiments.

Regards,

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Buckland, Anthony  
#5 Posted : Tuesday, April 29, 2003 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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The limiting factor now is the zoom value I can use in
the Adobe Acrobat Reader and still be able to Copy without
an overflow. However, I can get a good usable fineness of
detail in the house portion of my plan, and passable detail
in my overall plan. My first motivation was being able to
deal with a limitation in Master Landscape, that isoclines
used to produce the right slopes in the right places on my
lot have to be closed curves, meaning a bunch of meaningless
lines that loop around outside my lot (if you try to close
the curves with straight line portions _along_ the property
line, you get a raised rim around the lot). Once I have
my plan as a bitmap, I can easily eliminate the extra lines.
My second motivation, that I'll play with next, was to deal
with the PrintMgr bug that prevents printing to fit the
page with grid lines included; the grid lines can be faked
by drawing CAD lines on the plan, but with dimensioning on
each last one of the CAD lines gets labelled with its
dimension, so that I need to print the grid from a separate
plan printed with dimensioning off, and than combine the
grid with the plan, something easily done once both the
plan and the grid are bitmaps.

(By the way, if drawing lines every foot on a 250-by-100
lot seems a bit mind-boggling, is isn't, really. Draw
ten lines carefully along grid lines, select them, copy,
paste, move into correspondence with the next ten grid
lines, use nudge to perfect that correspondence; now
select all 20 lines, ...; once you're pasting say 40 lines
at a time, the job goes pretty fast.)
Buckland, Anthony  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, April 30, 2003 12:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Thanks, neat idea, using the Workshop to create the grid.
But I've now solved my problem the other way, and got a
bonus in the bargain, namely coordinates on the grid.
I produced a grid using the CAD technique, of the same size
as my lot. That I sent to Acrobat without dimensioning and
produced a bitmap. My plan I sent to Acrobat with dimensioning
and produced a bitmap eliminating the exterior lines. I used
Corel PhotoPaint (v. 9) to do the rest. I opened my plan, then
the grid, copied the grid, added it as a new object on top of
the plan, then made the grid 71% transparent (this solves two
problems: one, making the plan visible; two, making the grid
look more or less like Master Landscape's, not extra bold
like the CAD lines). The grid needs to be moved around a bit
to match the boundaries of the lot while it's still selected.
Then I found that with the right choice of font size I could
easily insert text line numbers at one-foot intervals by
typing 0-Enter-1-Enter-2... For the other axis I rotated the
whole image 90 degrees and repeated the process. Now my wife
and I can locate things in the garden plan we're working up
by other means than carefully counting lines.

Note that the foregoing long explanation contains a workaround
for the PrintMgr bug that I and, IIRC, at least one other
person reported earlier.

Thanks again for the helpful responses.
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